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our pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins me by phone. barbara, you've been dicking into this. what more do you know? >> this sad story emerged late last night, randi. the pentagon is trying to assemble what they can at this point about the service record of chris kyle and the man taken into custody, 25 years old. he was caught by police in texas after a brief pursuit, has been arraigned on two counts of capital murder. another man was shot along with chris kyle at this shooting range. the initial reports are that the men had gathered there and they were helping this former marine learn to shoot again. chris kyle had been very involved in helping veterans with posttraumatic stress. so there is a belief that the marine -- the suspect may have been involved with posttraumatic stress. i have to tell you, i think all of that still remains under investigation as to exactly what transpired. throughout the navy s.e.a.l. community, special operations forces, really, they are remembering a man who in their mind, their world truly was a legend for what he militarily accomplished during t
our pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins me by phone. barbara, you've been dicking into this. what more do you know? >> this sad story emerged late last night, randi. the pentagon is trying to assemble what they can at this point about the service record of chris kyle and the man taken into custody, 25 years old. he was caught by police in texas after a brief pursuit, has been arraigned on two counts of capital murder. another man was shot along with chris kyle at this shooting...
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holding solid, there's not a dissenting voice among democrats about chuck hagel's corn firmation as pentagon chief. what could republicans do? they could filibuster, i hear no signals that that's going to happen. i do not think that opposing the president's choice for a cabinet position is something that republicans want to fight with a filibuster. that's heavy artillery, i'm not sure they want to do, but they will voice their displeasure on the floor. most observers watching this think you're likely to see chuck hagel as the next defense secretary. >> if panetta doesn't serve up the red meat republicans want, could that hold up hagel's confirmation? >> he was out of office during benghazi, what did hold it up, there were republicans who said, until we get the current defense secretary who was around during bengha benghazi, down here in front of these committees, we're not going to confirm chuck hagel. >> what does this mean for the push for gun control measures? >> i think what we can say, watching the president from the time of the new town connecticut shootings, he promised to use the bul
holding solid, there's not a dissenting voice among democrats about chuck hagel's corn firmation as pentagon chief. what could republicans do? they could filibuster, i hear no signals that that's going to happen. i do not think that opposing the president's choice for a cabinet position is something that republicans want to fight with a filibuster. that's heavy artillery, i'm not sure they want to do, but they will voice their displeasure on the floor. most observers watching this think you're...
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embassy in turkey and the president's nominee for pentagon chief gets the third degree. >> i would like an answer yes or no. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no. >> outstanding defense secretary leon panetta and joint chief chairman martin dempsey on the hagel hearings, hospitals and benghazi. >> this is not 911. you can't call in two minutes and expect a team in place. >> then the president's agenda. >> comprehensive immigration reform. prevent something like newtown hopefully from happening again. >> what about jobs? with former obama policy adviser meld barnes, former labor secretary elaine chao, mvp super bowl xl hines ward. i'm candy crowley and this is "state of the union." joining me now leon panetta secretary of defense and martin dempsey, chairman of the chief joint of staff. i want to play you a little of the hearings. >> as to the iranians red line persian gulf, some of the iranian questions you asked. i support the president's strong position on containment. by the way, i've just been handed a note that i misspoke. we don't have a position on containment. >> just
embassy in turkey and the president's nominee for pentagon chief gets the third degree. >> i would like an answer yes or no. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no. >> outstanding defense secretary leon panetta and joint chief chairman martin dempsey on the hagel hearings, hospitals and benghazi. >> this is not 911. you can't call in two minutes and expect a team in place. >> then the president's agenda. >> comprehensive immigration reform. prevent...
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chris lawrence at the pentagon for us. thanks, chris. >>> if you already hate airport security lines, a bitter standoff in congress could make you wait much longer. l changed you got to bring it in. if your tires need to be rotated, you have to get that done as well. jackie, tell me why somebody should bring they're car here to the ford dealership for service instead of any one of those other places out there. they are going to take care of my car because this is where it came from. price is right no problem, they make you feel like you're a family. get a synthetic blend oil change, tire rotation and much more, $29.95 after $10.00 rebate. if you take care of your car your car will take care of you. >>> if you thought the fiscal cliff was the end of washington's manufactured crises, guess again. just two weeks from now, more than $1 trillion in automatic spending cuts are scheduled to kick in. folks here in washington have a big, cumbersome word for it. it's the sequester. and if it happens, folks on both sides say it's goi
chris lawrence at the pentagon for us. thanks, chris. >>> if you already hate airport security lines, a bitter standoff in congress could make you wait much longer. l changed you got to bring it in. if your tires need to be rotated, you have to get that done as well. jackie, tell me why somebody should bring they're car here to the ford dealership for service instead of any one of those other places out there. they are going to take care of my car because this is where it came from....
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embassy in turkey and the president's nominee for pentagon chief gets the third degree. >> i actually would like an answer, yes or no. # >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no. >> outstanding defense secretary leon panetta and joint chief chairman general martin dempsey on the hagel hearings, world hot spots and benghazi. >> this is not 911. you can't call in two minutes and expect a team in place. >> then the president's agenda. >> comprehensive immigration reform. prevent something like newtown or oak creek from happening again. >> what about jobs? with former obama policy adviser mellody barnes, former labor secretary elaine chao and a conversation about football and kids with the mvp of super bowl xl hines ward. i'm candy crowley. this is "state of the union." joining me now leon panetta secretary of defense and martin dempsey, chairman of the chief joint of staff. gentlemen, thank you both for being here. we had very interesting hearings on thursday for your replacement. i want to play you just a little bit from those hearings. >> the iranian's red line, persian gulf, som
embassy in turkey and the president's nominee for pentagon chief gets the third degree. >> i actually would like an answer, yes or no. # >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no. >> outstanding defense secretary leon panetta and joint chief chairman general martin dempsey on the hagel hearings, world hot spots and benghazi. >> this is not 911. you can't call in two minutes and expect a team in place. >> then the president's agenda. >> comprehensive...
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we will be live from pentagon in a minute. >>> and falling from space, wow, pretty cool, at a rate of more than 843 miles per hour, that's how fast dare devil felix baumgartner fell when he jumped from space. the official speed has been released. even faster now than those record keepers thought at first. pretty cool stuff. >>> one of our top stories today at cnn, a secret american drone base somewhere in saudi arabia, now this is according, these are reports from two major newspapers today, saying that this u.s. launches these drone attacks against al qaeda targets from that particular base. i want to bring in two folks here at the pentagon chris lawrence also michael holmes from cnn international. chris, it's not a total surprise that this was there in saudi arabia, but certainly it was not something that they officially wanted to reveal. why are they doing it now? >> that's the big question, suzanne, why did this come out? we reported two years ago from our sources u.s. officials were telling us the cia was building an airstrip in the a arabian peninsula. it was hinted it would pos
we will be live from pentagon in a minute. >>> and falling from space, wow, pretty cool, at a rate of more than 843 miles per hour, that's how fast dare devil felix baumgartner fell when he jumped from space. the official speed has been released. even faster now than those record keepers thought at first. pretty cool stuff. >>> one of our top stories today at cnn, a secret american drone base somewhere in saudi arabia, now this is according, these are reports from two major...
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we look forward to see what the pentagon has to say. john. >> as you pointed out again and again, the u.s. has not commented to us about the authenticity of the videos. they could be fake. but if they are real, what does it say about the sophistication of the iranian intelligence system? >> reporter: it's too early to make that kind of assessment, john, because it's too early to figure out exactly what iranian officials have extracted from this drone. this is obviously a high-tech machine, stealth technology. you can be sure iran is trying to clone it, but we don't know if they have done that yet. it looks like they have managed to decode the video. one thing you can be sure they'll do is they'll use this in the information war against the u.s. they will bolster their position that the u.s. is a bully in the region, meddling in sovereign affairs of other countries with drones and it's going to be part of the information war that these two countries have been locked in for a long time, john. >> thanks, reza. >> there's going to be a lot
we look forward to see what the pentagon has to say. john. >> as you pointed out again and again, the u.s. has not commented to us about the authenticity of the videos. they could be fake. but if they are real, what does it say about the sophistication of the iranian intelligence system? >> reporter: it's too early to make that kind of assessment, john, because it's too early to figure out exactly what iranian officials have extracted from this drone. this is obviously a high-tech...
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we begin with what is happening tonight at the pentagon. >> i'm barbara starr at the pentagon. defense secretary leon panetta was to be home in california in retirement, but now that congress will not deal with the chuck hagel nomination for another ten days, panetta still is on the job. he will travel to brussels for a nato summit to talk about afghanistan and other security issues. when the summit is over on friday, the big question, does he come back to the pentagon or does he try once again to go home to california? >> i'm poppy harlow in new york and while the markets are closed monday for the presidents' day holiday, but when they reopen tuesday, we will get key earnings and economic reports. the latest existing home sales numbers will come out wednesday which will help us to see if the housing recovery is continuing, because existing home sales account for about 90% of the overall housing market. on the earnings front, we will hear from walmart and marriott and all eyes on dell as the computer maker reports its quarterly numbers. founder michael dell has made a $24 milli
we begin with what is happening tonight at the pentagon. >> i'm barbara starr at the pentagon. defense secretary leon panetta was to be home in california in retirement, but now that congress will not deal with the chuck hagel nomination for another ten days, panetta still is on the job. he will travel to brussels for a nato summit to talk about afghanistan and other security issues. when the summit is over on friday, the big question, does he come back to the pentagon or does he try once...
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let's bring up the pentagon here and look at this. if this represented the entire budget of the pentagon, these cuts would only about this 8% or so up here at the top. that doesn't look like a whole lot right now, but the impact could be quite large. for example, one of the cuts would be to 46,000 department of defense jobs, which would be endangered with men and women and enlisted families, in fact, facing lower pay raises next year than they would expect. what about beyond that? the civilian population, working for the defense department. 800,000 civilians could face these 22-day furloughs, a forced furlough. it's a forced vacation. essentially, they're losing an entire month of pay out of the year, big impact on a lot of those folks out there. beyond that, there could be a reduction in training and maintenance for many people. that would have a bigger impact, probably in forward bases, where people are deployed, like afghanistan. beyond that, a reduction in naval operations. and finally, a reduction, in fact, in the number of hours
let's bring up the pentagon here and look at this. if this represented the entire budget of the pentagon, these cuts would only about this 8% or so up here at the top. that doesn't look like a whole lot right now, but the impact could be quite large. for example, one of the cuts would be to 46,000 department of defense jobs, which would be endangered with men and women and enlisted families, in fact, facing lower pay raises next year than they would expect. what about beyond that? the civilian...
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we reached out to the pentagon for comment but we have not heard back yet. drones will come up at a confirmation hearing for john brennan, the president's nomination for cia director. he's expected the tough questions the use of drones to target americans suspected of terrorism. the president has agreed to release classified documents to two congressional committees outlining the legal justification for drone strikes that killed u.s. terror suspects abroad. >>> the grounded dreamliner 787 will fly again today, but for one time only. the faa okayed a one-time flight with no passengers from ft. worth, texas, to the factory in everett, washington, to complete production on just one of the jumbo jets. "the wall street journal" says boeing is proposing a series of battery design changes it believes would help minimize the fire risks. >>> we want to get back to live shots of the prayer breakfast in washington, d.c., that's being held right now. people have arrived and they are obviously already at the podium. the president is set to speak any moment. it is the 61s
we reached out to the pentagon for comment but we have not heard back yet. drones will come up at a confirmation hearing for john brennan, the president's nomination for cia director. he's expected the tough questions the use of drones to target americans suspected of terrorism. the president has agreed to release classified documents to two congressional committees outlining the legal justification for drone strikes that killed u.s. terror suspects abroad. >>> the grounded dreamliner...
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but not necessarily running the pentagon from right here. he went back to his california home over the weekend. he will travel this week to brussels for a nato summit. hagel was supposed to go to that summit. and then the big question is, after that, somewhere in the saturday, sunday, monday time frame, will leon panetta just go back to california, continue to do the job from there? will he have to come back to washington? tuesday's the big day, wolf, that's when we may find out hagel's fate. >> as far as hagel is concerned, how much grumbling, if any, do you hear over there at the pentagon, that he's becoming such a political, i guess, cause, democrats supporting him, republicans opposing him, that if in fact he is confirmed, he probably will be, but if he's confirmed, he won't be an effective representative for the pentagon in dealing with congress? because you really do need bipartisan support. >> reporter: well, this is going to be a very delicate political issue. as you know, wolf, the pentagon like, to say it doesn't get involved in po
but not necessarily running the pentagon from right here. he went back to his california home over the weekend. he will travel this week to brussels for a nato summit. hagel was supposed to go to that summit. and then the big question is, after that, somewhere in the saturday, sunday, monday time frame, will leon panetta just go back to california, continue to do the job from there? will he have to come back to washington? tuesday's the big day, wolf, that's when we may find out hagel's fate....
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cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr broke the story. tell us more. >> reporter: carol, this is the ultimate many believe in washington budget politics, cnn has learned indeed secretary panetta is recommending what you might think of as an effective pay cut. let me give you two numbers here. this year, 2013, the pay raise for the active duty military force has been 1.7%. that's tied to complex employment calculation, to 1.7% this year panetta now will recommend only 1% pay raise for next year, 2014. several officials have confirmed this to me. they say it is due to what they call budget uncertainty in washington. this is going to put the ball squarely in congress's court as they contemplate sequestration, the budget cuts, everything we have been talking about for weeks now. will congress vote to cut effectively cut military pay while so many troops are still in combat? carol. >> it boggles the mind. it's not like our military troops are making a whole lot of money. since congress can't get its act together -- it's unbelievable. >> report
cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr broke the story. tell us more. >> reporter: carol, this is the ultimate many believe in washington budget politics, cnn has learned indeed secretary panetta is recommending what you might think of as an effective pay cut. let me give you two numbers here. this year, 2013, the pay raise for the active duty military force has been 1.7%. that's tied to complex employment calculation, to 1.7% this year panetta now will recommend only 1% pay raise for...
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barbara starr is at the pentagon. dana, what was the final roll call? >> reporter: we don't have it yet. they are finalizing it. we do know because our lisa is in the chamber she's counted 51 votes, simple majority needed for chuck hagel to be confirmed as the next defense secretary. we also know just listening to the votes as they come up he's gotten at least four yes votes from his former republican colleagues. that's not a lot but maybe more than some may have anticipated given the deep partisan divide over his nomination. this may surprise people as well. rand paul one of the most conservative senators he voted yes. cochran said he would. richard shelby of alabama and mike johans as well. this vote is still open. what this does is put this very bruising battle for chuck hagel behind him but obviously as barbara will tell you starts a new chapter of very, very tough go of it at the pentagon. and with regard to the way he has to relate to members of congress especially with these forced spending cuts coming on friday. >> we'll get to that in a moment.
barbara starr is at the pentagon. dana, what was the final roll call? >> reporter: we don't have it yet. they are finalizing it. we do know because our lisa is in the chamber she's counted 51 votes, simple majority needed for chuck hagel to be confirmed as the next defense secretary. we also know just listening to the votes as they come up he's gotten at least four yes votes from his former republican colleagues. that's not a lot but maybe more than some may have anticipated given the...
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this is just outside the pentagon. he spoke about his challenges his replacement must face. >> you're going to have to continue to deal with rogue states like iran and north korea. we just saw what north korea has done in the last few weeks. a missile test and now a nuclear test. they represent a serious threat to the united states of america. we have got to be prepared to deal with that. >> deal with that, he says. panetta has been leading the pentagon for the last 18 months. but he's been in public service for the last five decades. >>> live this hour, big moment for chuck hagel, the man president obama would like to become the next secretary of defense. the senate armed forces committee holding a vote on hagel's nomination. and while it is likely he will be confirmed, several republicans, they're still putting up a fight. that happens this hour. >>> also, cereal and soda? pepsi introducing a new mountain dew drink for, dare i say, breakfast, calling it kick start. the company says it doesn't consider this an energy
this is just outside the pentagon. he spoke about his challenges his replacement must face. >> you're going to have to continue to deal with rogue states like iran and north korea. we just saw what north korea has done in the last few weeks. a missile test and now a nuclear test. they represent a serious threat to the united states of america. we have got to be prepared to deal with that. >> deal with that, he says. panetta has been leading the pentagon for the last 18 months. but...
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let's bring in our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. she's investigating what is going on. what are you finding out, barbara? >> so far, wolf, u.s. officials aren't saying much about this. so the question is, is it iran showing the capabilities of one of the u.s.'s most secret spy airplanes? iran claims this is classified video from a u.s. spy drone. >> this aircraft has had many flights in countries around iran. in operations that have taken place in pakistan, this aircraft has provided guidance. >> u.s. officials are trying to figure out what exactly iran has in hand. in washington thursday, defense secretary leon panetta wasn't talking. >> did iran hack our drone, mr. secretary? >> most alarming will be if iran's claim is true that it dekripted a video from one of america's most secret aircraft. >> looking at the video, it certainly seems to be genuine but i think it's a give away that you can see that the video in places is masked by what looked like frames in a glass cover. >> since it captured in the drone in 2011, iran has embraced the propaganda value, even making a
let's bring in our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. she's investigating what is going on. what are you finding out, barbara? >> so far, wolf, u.s. officials aren't saying much about this. so the question is, is it iran showing the capabilities of one of the u.s.'s most secret spy airplanes? iran claims this is classified video from a u.s. spy drone. >> this aircraft has had many flights in countries around iran. in operations that have taken place in pakistan, this aircraft has...
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the pentagon is ready to give benefits to same-sex partners to military members. they are likely to include military i.d. cards to access to on-base stores and health and welfare programs as well. >>> spelling out the rules for the targeted killing of americans. according to a newly leaked justice department memo the united states can use lethal force against american citizens overseas if that person happens to be a senior leader with al qaeda. the 16-page paper says clear and imminent attack is not required. >>> charlotte is the first city to pass an antidrone refuse ripped um. >>> and just into cnn, live pictures of a truck dangling off i-95, an overpass in ft. lauderdale in florida. one person reported trapped inside the truck, rescuers trying to figure out how to get him out. more information on this as it comes in. again, that is a scary, scary picture. that truck just dangling off the overpass. >> look at all of the emergency personnel on site, trying to figure out how to solve that crisis or potentially crisis. >> obviously very dell can't. >> we'll continu
the pentagon is ready to give benefits to same-sex partners to military members. they are likely to include military i.d. cards to access to on-base stores and health and welfare programs as well. >>> spelling out the rules for the targeted killing of americans. according to a newly leaked justice department memo the united states can use lethal force against american citizens overseas if that person happens to be a senior leader with al qaeda. the 16-page paper says clear and imminent...
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he will also be honored at the pentagon on tuesday, after which he will come back here to minot, north dakota, and continue with his new job. meanwhile, the war in afghanistan continues. more than 60,000 american service members are right now in that country fighting that war.. i'm jake tapper for cnn in minot, north dakota. >>> new developments in the all-out man hunt for a suspected cop killer. right now police keting a california indian reservation. >>> and bracing for a snow making monster. a blizzard taking aim right now at the entire northeast. major cities like boston, right here in new york, smash dab in its path. thousands of flights have already been canceled. good morning. welcome to "early start" this morning. i'm christine romans. john berman is off today. >> thanks for joining us, everyone. i'm zoraida sambolin. it is friday, february 8th. it is 5:00 a.m. here in the east. let's get started. millions of people bracing for what could be a blizzard for the ages. take a look at the monster storm that's about to bury boston and bring misery to millions in the northeast. forec
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but the pentagon has to deal with congress, with republican lawmakers and won't this affect their relationship? >> of course not. this is always transaction. as it happens for the last 70 or 100 years. whatever of the things, hagel was a senator, he understands how the place works how he's got three people that can help him because the president doesn't like dealing with the senate very much. who can blame him now he's got joe biden, john kerry and chuck hagel all skilled with dealing with the senate and that will be helpful for him moving through. >> you know, carol, this is one of the reasons why it's so problematic for republicans. and rich is right that there have been some holds and some there be something like this in the past. but we're in a very different place right now. and the reasons that they are stating as to why they are against chuck hagel do not pass muster. >> right. >> the american people are sick of petty politics in washington. this is a president, he has said he's willing to meet the republicans halfway. we have yet to see the halfway that they're willing to meet this pre
but the pentagon has to deal with congress, with republican lawmakers and won't this affect their relationship? >> of course not. this is always transaction. as it happens for the last 70 or 100 years. whatever of the things, hagel was a senator, he understands how the place works how he's got three people that can help him because the president doesn't like dealing with the senate very much. who can blame him now he's got joe biden, john kerry and chuck hagel all skilled with dealing...
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live at the pentagon. this test is wore i sor woresom. >> one of the biggest problems right now is whether or not north korea really has achieved a miniaturid bomb. they say they set off a smaller, more lethal explosive, if you will. miniaturization is key. that means they could possibly put a small war head on a missile sooner than expected and deliver it to a target. now the cia, pentagon, all has to look at this to determine what they set off and essentially now work backward. if it was a miniaturized bomb, what did it take north korea to get there? where did they get the technology, the engineering, the expertise, the money to do it? they will look at what it would have taken north korea to achieve what they say they achieved and try to figure out how they did it and who might have helped them. zoraida. >> has theyou say there. there has been of skepticism in where this program is right now. >> the u.s. has been skeptical for years. in december, they successfully launched a long-range ballistic missile
live at the pentagon. this test is wore i sor woresom. >> one of the biggest problems right now is whether or not north korea really has achieved a miniaturid bomb. they say they set off a smaller, more lethal explosive, if you will. miniaturization is key. that means they could possibly put a small war head on a missile sooner than expected and deliver it to a target. now the cia, pentagon, all has to look at this to determine what they set off and essentially now work backward. if it...
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you're going to go, now, and run the pentagon. and the question is how are the people inside the pentagon going to react to him. will there be a hangover from that. he's got a lot of work to do. you have those pending cuts at the defense department. you've got to wind down a war in afghanistan. and also you have to downsize the military. so the job is immense. and you have to have confidence inside the building to do it well. and so that's, you know, that's a question that does come out of this entire process. >> jack lew has been nominated by the president to be the next treasury secretary. all of a sudden, there's an issue involving the cayman islands that has come out. how significant, what's going on? >> there's a question of whether jack lew's had a cayman investment through citigroup that is not unlike the one that mitt romney had in his portfolio. look, jack lew has been confirmed twice before. this is not going to hold him up. but it does allow republicans to kind of say what's good for the goose is good for the gander. ok
you're going to go, now, and run the pentagon. and the question is how are the people inside the pentagon going to react to him. will there be a hangover from that. he's got a lot of work to do. you have those pending cuts at the defense department. you've got to wind down a war in afghanistan. and also you have to downsize the military. so the job is immense. and you have to have confidence inside the building to do it well. and so that's, you know, that's a question that does come out of this...
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a $400 billion price tag as the pentagon faces $500 billion spending cuts. what's going on? stand by. >>> i'm dr. sanjay gupta. meet ed lew. he's building a space tell low scope. he says it's going to protect the earth from asteroids. >> this is the space telescope. >> that's it? that's the size of it there? >> yeah. the real one is about the size of, say, a delivery truck. so it's about 23, 24 feet tall. and it's about 3,000 pounds. over a 6 1/2-year period, it's going to scan earth's orbit multiple times and those are the asteroids it could get hit with. >> so it's going to track about 10,000 asteroids. >> each month? >> each month. yes. which is more than all other telescopes throughout history. it will do that every month. >> watch more on the urgent mission to save planet earth this sunday on "the next list." [ male announcer ] any technology not moving forward is moving backward. [ engine turns over, tires squeal ] and you'll find advanced safety technology like an available heads-up display on the 2013 lexus gs. there's no going back. on the 2013 lexus gs. why take ex
a $400 billion price tag as the pentagon faces $500 billion spending cuts. what's going on? stand by. >>> i'm dr. sanjay gupta. meet ed lew. he's building a space tell low scope. he says it's going to protect the earth from asteroids. >> this is the space telescope. >> that's it? that's the size of it there? >> yeah. the real one is about the size of, say, a delivery truck. so it's about 23, 24 feet tall. and it's about 3,000 pounds. over a 6 1/2-year period, it's...
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he said there's going to be furloughs at the pentagon, the pay increases for the troops will not be as large as he would like, and then the president today added on to them, said, look, this is going to affect seniors, food safety, the poor. so what they are setting themselves up for is really this argument they are set to have and i think we're going to hear from the state of the union, over these automatic spending cuts that are due to take effect. the president is saying, we cannot let this occur and he's ready to clearly have that fight with republicans on this. >> panetta leaving office with an extraordinary acknowledgement that the defense department, the cia, state department, all of them recommended to the president that the u.s. should start arming, directly arming syrian rebels but the president decided that was not necessarily a good idea. that's pretty extraordinary. >> it was extraordinary. he was asked about it at a congressional hearing. what is interesting to me is someone who covers washington, it's not that there is disagreement at certain points over policy between t
he said there's going to be furloughs at the pentagon, the pay increases for the troops will not be as large as he would like, and then the president today added on to them, said, look, this is going to affect seniors, food safety, the poor. so what they are setting themselves up for is really this argument they are set to have and i think we're going to hear from the state of the union, over these automatic spending cuts that are due to take effect. the president is saying, we cannot let this...